Real World Knife Attacks and Defences

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A question was put up on a self-defense forum I frequent in the section about knife attacks and defenses – asking if anyone had been unarmed and forced to disarm an attacker that had a knife.

A couple of people responded and I thought I would put their answers here.

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I have done it twice and it involved no “strips” or anything so fancy or “wishful thinking” as trying to get a wrist lock on someone to get control of them.

I was very lucky both times. Very lucky.

In both cases, I deflected with one arm and pounded on their knife arm with my other hand and then went upstairs to the neck and head and beat on them some more.

The one “person,” using the term very loosely, still retained the knife and I wrenched his elbow when he was stunned.

Don’t plan on anything, guard your neck and your crimson center line along with the insides of both arms as if your life depends on it, because it does.

Learn to beat on the arm, the knife is fast like the tip of a stick, the arms are much slower by comparison, it is madness to attempt to grab or otherwise control the faster part of the limb, that right behind the knife, the hand or wrist. If you DO get it by accident, slam them face first into a wall or car, whatever is available, break their knee with a stamping kick or an oblique kick, as long as they are ambulatory and armed, they are a threat.

It does not get any more basic and advanced than that.

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I’ve had two in twelve years.

The first occurred when I was working corrections. An inmate charged me during a cell search and tried an overhand icepick stab with a homemade tattoo needle.

I flinched and covered and took it in the elbow instead of the neck.
I wrapped his arm holding the needle, which had actually broken off in my arm, and pummeled him with elbows until we both fell.

Beat him unconscious.

The second was when I was on patrol and answered a call of a medical emergency. Dispatch was non-specific on the nature of the emergency.

I walked in the house and heard screaming from a bedroom. I entered the bedroom and looked over and saw him, lying on the floor of the closet, face down and a female kneeling at his side crying. I thought he had had a heart attack or something so I go in the closet with her and kneel beside him.

He rears up screaming. Turned out the emergency was a 320 lb emotionally disturbed person who had tried to slash himself up with a nine inch fillet knife.

So me and him grapple over the knife while he’s bloody, sweaty, and pissed off.

She’s in there with us screaming for him stop, falling down, getting tangled up in clothes, shoes, and assorted closet detritus.

Anyway to make a long story short, after several failed attempts to remove the knife from his hand, and me going into oxygen debt, I buried my thumb in his eye socket up to the knuckle, which distracted him enough for me to repeatedly smash the knife hand against the door molding.

In both of these I was at extreme close quarter and the attack itself immediately went into a clinch struggle.

No room to zone in both cases.

Not saying that you won’t have room to zone, but you can’t always control range.

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My experiences closely rivals the previous respondent.

Too close and no room time to get off line…

Case one.

I just bear hugged him (underarm) and got him down while headbutting him a few times.. on the ground I got in a few good elbow shots and open hand palm shots. Got a few superficial slashes on left side abdomen and back.

Case two.

I grabbed his upper arm, while charging in with simultaneous chin jabs/ knee lifts. He never touched me…just got him by surprise I guess.

Case three.

I was handcuffing a guy, when his girlfriend decided to intervene with poking a shank (steel comb with a long pointed handle) in my “love handles”……I just instinctively pivoted, and smashed the cuffs into her forehead with a open hand palm shot.

4 stitches on me – 16 stitches for his girlfriend!

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Malcolm
Peterborough Martial Arts

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